Will Someone Tell Time Magazine (or whoever is publishing them) to Stop Creating “...Of All-Time” Lists?
I came across the Time Magazine's latest list of 25 All-TIME Best Animated Films
Richard Corliss of Time compiled the list of animated films as follows:
1. Pinocchio (1940)
2. WALL-E (2008)
3. The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Movie (1979)
4. Dumbo (1941)
5. Spirited Away (2001)
6. South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (1999)
7. Up (2009)
8. The Triplets of Belleville (2003)
9. Finding Nemo (2003)
10. The Little Mermaid (1989)
11. Toy Story 3 (2010)
12. Toy Story (1995)
13. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
14. The Adventures of Prince Achmed (1926)
15. Wallace & Gromit in the Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005)
16. Happy Feet (2006)
17. Akira (1988)
18. The Lion King (1994)
19. Tangled (2010)
20. Paprika (2007)
21. Kung Fu Panda (2008)
22. Dr. Seuss’ Horton Hears a Who! (2008)
23. Yellow Submarine (1968)
24. Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)
25. Lady and the Tramp (1955)
I came across the Time Magazine's latest list of 25 All-TIME Best Animated Films
Richard Corliss of Time compiled the list of animated films as follows:
1. Pinocchio (1940)
2. WALL-E (2008)
3. The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Movie (1979)
4. Dumbo (1941)
5. Spirited Away (2001)
6. South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (1999)
7. Up (2009)
8. The Triplets of Belleville (2003)
9. Finding Nemo (2003)
10. The Little Mermaid (1989)
11. Toy Story 3 (2010)
12. Toy Story (1995)
13. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
14. The Adventures of Prince Achmed (1926)
15. Wallace & Gromit in the Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005)
16. Happy Feet (2006)
17. Akira (1988)
18. The Lion King (1994)
19. Tangled (2010)
20. Paprika (2007)
21. Kung Fu Panda (2008)
22. Dr. Seuss’ Horton Hears a Who! (2008)
23. Yellow Submarine (1968)
24. Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)
25. Lady and the Tramp (1955)
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Now, of course, their will be debate about this list….Just like every other ALL-TIME lists that Time Magazine or any other publication publishes…
My main gripe is not the list but WHY THE "...OF ALL-TIME" LIST?
The publishing “...Of All-Time” listings went out with the dawn of the “New Millennium” or between 1998-2000 when some people of earth thought the world would have ended by now.
Ummm….we see what happened to the Y2K scare, right? NOTHING.
Posting these so-called “...Of All-Time” lists is essentially a slap in the face to the future of creativity.
Its like saying:
“Well these things are the greatest (whatever you like) of All-Time and there will NEVER be another great (whatever you like) EVER! Nope, no one will EVER come up with anything new or exciting to change our perception of life or imagination. Its OVER. FINISHED. DONE.”
Now, I’ll post my favorite music, books, artists, etc. BUT that’s me. I’m not imposing on anyone’s opinions by saying “These things are the Greatest that I Like and They’re better Than What You Like!”
I’m posting MY favorites and if I say some one thing is the best of All-Time, I’m not going to say it just for the sake of it, I’m going to back it up with a some research and present my case.
It is my opinion that anything to make a list for All-Time or Best of Everything Ever of the Past, Present or Future, should be based on 3 principles:
1. Innovation – Did the creative body of work or person(s) present anything innovative; nothing that was ever done before?
2. Influence – Did the creative body of work or person(s) influence the world at large or the creative process in their genre and beyond?
3. Success – Did the creative body of work or person(s) have great success financially or in other numbers since its release?
These three factors should be a part of any argument of what is or not the best or greatest “...Of All-Time”
An example to point out is the movie Citizen Kane. During the week of this past year's Oscars I posted in The Turner Movie Classics Facebook page, my favorite movies. It was when I posted my thoughts on Citizen Kane and listed it as the greatest film of All-Time, it wasn't too long afterwards that it opened up an argument of epic proportions.
From research that I gathered through interviews and documentaries I’ve watched and articles and books I’ve read, the movie Citizen Kane has been the most influential film to the creative process. How? Every modern filmmaker of the last 40-50 years have studied it and used elements of that film in their body of work.
Sooooo…favorite directors Spielberg, Scorsese, Lucas, Kubrick, etc. have all been influenced by this film (among others I’m sure) but it is the one that is MOST influential because it was innovative and have been successful since its release. And in turn influenced current favorite directors Nolan, Jackson, Abrams, Snyder, etc.
I also pointed out that I was not trying to override other people’s opinions of favorites just that whether you like it or not, its influence, innovation and success cannot be denied.
There’s also a difference between having “...Of All-Time” Lists and pointing out a single “...Of All-Time” creative body of work or person(s)
Another example, many may argue with but cannot deny is The Beatles being the All-Time Greatest Music Band because of their creative innovations, influence and success that continues to this day.
When a writer or critic gives an opinion of ONE being the best or greatest it should be with some merit, involving the 3 factors previously mentioned.
When a writer or critic gives an opinion of a select list of others, then it is very much open for debate.
Then again, I believe the best way to solve the “...Of All-Time” List problem is to just list the year-to-year.
For example: The 25 All-TIME Best Animated Films 1935-2011
That way you have the best of that era, and NOT the best of All-Time as if the world will end tomorrow….
Not unless Time Magazine knows something we don’t…..
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By the way, here’s a list of my 25 favorite animated movies of All-Time 1970-2011 – listed alphabetically:
1. Akira
2. Alladin
3. Appleseed Ex Machina
4. Beauty and the Beast
5. Charlotte's Web
6. Cowboy Bebop the Movie: Knockin' on Heaven's Door
7. Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
8. Finding Nemo
9. Ghost in the Shell
10. The Iron Giant
11. Lion King
12. Meet the Robinsons
13. Monsters Vs. Aliens
14. Monsters, Inc.
15. Ninja Scroll
16. Robots
17. Shrek 2
18. Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie
19. The Incredibles
20. Toy Story
21. Toy Story 2
22. Toy Story 3
23. Up
24. WALL-E
25. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
My main gripe is not the list but WHY THE "...OF ALL-TIME" LIST?
The publishing “...Of All-Time” listings went out with the dawn of the “New Millennium” or between 1998-2000 when some people of earth thought the world would have ended by now.
Ummm….we see what happened to the Y2K scare, right? NOTHING.
Posting these so-called “...Of All-Time” lists is essentially a slap in the face to the future of creativity.
Its like saying:
“Well these things are the greatest (whatever you like) of All-Time and there will NEVER be another great (whatever you like) EVER! Nope, no one will EVER come up with anything new or exciting to change our perception of life or imagination. Its OVER. FINISHED. DONE.”
Now, I’ll post my favorite music, books, artists, etc. BUT that’s me. I’m not imposing on anyone’s opinions by saying “These things are the Greatest that I Like and They’re better Than What You Like!”
I’m posting MY favorites and if I say some one thing is the best of All-Time, I’m not going to say it just for the sake of it, I’m going to back it up with a some research and present my case.
It is my opinion that anything to make a list for All-Time or Best of Everything Ever of the Past, Present or Future, should be based on 3 principles:
1. Innovation – Did the creative body of work or person(s) present anything innovative; nothing that was ever done before?
2. Influence – Did the creative body of work or person(s) influence the world at large or the creative process in their genre and beyond?
3. Success – Did the creative body of work or person(s) have great success financially or in other numbers since its release?
These three factors should be a part of any argument of what is or not the best or greatest “...Of All-Time”
An example to point out is the movie Citizen Kane. During the week of this past year's Oscars I posted in The Turner Movie Classics Facebook page, my favorite movies. It was when I posted my thoughts on Citizen Kane and listed it as the greatest film of All-Time, it wasn't too long afterwards that it opened up an argument of epic proportions.
From research that I gathered through interviews and documentaries I’ve watched and articles and books I’ve read, the movie Citizen Kane has been the most influential film to the creative process. How? Every modern filmmaker of the last 40-50 years have studied it and used elements of that film in their body of work.
Sooooo…favorite directors Spielberg, Scorsese, Lucas, Kubrick, etc. have all been influenced by this film (among others I’m sure) but it is the one that is MOST influential because it was innovative and have been successful since its release. And in turn influenced current favorite directors Nolan, Jackson, Abrams, Snyder, etc.
I also pointed out that I was not trying to override other people’s opinions of favorites just that whether you like it or not, its influence, innovation and success cannot be denied.
There’s also a difference between having “...Of All-Time” Lists and pointing out a single “...Of All-Time” creative body of work or person(s)
Another example, many may argue with but cannot deny is The Beatles being the All-Time Greatest Music Band because of their creative innovations, influence and success that continues to this day.
When a writer or critic gives an opinion of ONE being the best or greatest it should be with some merit, involving the 3 factors previously mentioned.
When a writer or critic gives an opinion of a select list of others, then it is very much open for debate.
Then again, I believe the best way to solve the “...Of All-Time” List problem is to just list the year-to-year.
For example: The 25 All-TIME Best Animated Films 1935-2011
That way you have the best of that era, and NOT the best of All-Time as if the world will end tomorrow….
Not unless Time Magazine knows something we don’t…..
=====================================
By the way, here’s a list of my 25 favorite animated movies of All-Time 1970-2011 – listed alphabetically:
1. Akira
2. Alladin
3. Appleseed Ex Machina
4. Beauty and the Beast
5. Charlotte's Web
6. Cowboy Bebop the Movie: Knockin' on Heaven's Door
7. Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
8. Finding Nemo
9. Ghost in the Shell
10. The Iron Giant
11. Lion King
12. Meet the Robinsons
13. Monsters Vs. Aliens
14. Monsters, Inc.
15. Ninja Scroll
16. Robots
17. Shrek 2
18. Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie
19. The Incredibles
20. Toy Story
21. Toy Story 2
22. Toy Story 3
23. Up
24. WALL-E
25. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
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